Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

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Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by Q20 » Fri May 05, 2006 5:01 pm

The Karbonaatjies kraal farm was sold a while back by John Rudd, who was very hospitable to climbers. I have been trying for a while to get hold of the new owners to find out what the current situation with access is, but have had no success.

Any info would be much appreciated! It is such a wicked place and am really keen to get back there.

on yet another access issue, I was planning a beginners climbing/training trip to Gecko Rock, but I have heard from the owner that the resort is going to be closed for \"most of the year\". For anyone who is interested :wink:
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Post by Hannes » Tue May 09, 2006 11:09 am

About access: we drove out there a few months back, no climbing as the new owner was trying to finalise a registration process for commercial purposes. He didn't sound anti climbing but asked us not to climb until he obtained some kind of permit for whatever. His name is Guy and his number is 082 550 3240. I want to head out there sometime soon but haven't contacted him since then.

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Post by Hann » Mon May 15, 2006 8:26 am

Latest info on access is as follows.
The guest house needs to be booked (R2500 per night) but can accommodate 20 people.
There is no camping nor any day access.

The situation is being addressed but feel free to contact Guy. Perhaps if he realizes the about of climbing clientele he is losing he may reconsider.

Try to be nice though as he is generally a reasonable chap.

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Post by steve » Mon May 15, 2006 10:16 am

As I understand the crag is not actually on the land which John Rudd used to own, but on the adjacent property owned and used by the army. The Colonel/Sergeant living on the property seemed amenable to climbers camping/climbing there. I think it involves a slightly longer drive and approach, but may be worth exploring. R2500 is a tad steep if there are only a few folks going. If anyone ventures out there it may be worth approaching the army dude about the usage of the land as a climbing venue.

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by KarooOne » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:32 pm

The Farm and hotel is under new management. It is now known at Karoo One. Climbers as individuals, groups and events are most welcome.

Here is a link to the website:
http://www.karoo1.com/index.html#top

Please contact: 023 3582131 for bookings.

Thank you
Howard

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by ant » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:56 am

Fantastic thanks for the update Howard.

Karbonaatjieskraal has some very fun (and tough) routes in a great setting.
I'm sure some folks will be keen to get back there this winter.

Ant

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by KarooOne » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:22 am

Hi members,

I am the owner of the Hotel, Karoo 1. I am looking for an experienced climber to scout the route known as Karbonaatjies Kraal and to re-introduce it to the climbing community.

Have you any recommendations? Who would be the best person/ club to contact.

Thank you
Howard

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by RainbowDave » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:48 am

Hi Howard

There are quite a few climbers living in Montagu who might be keen to come climb there.
Tony Lourens lives in Montagu and he produces climbing guidebooks for areas.

Thanks
Dave from Rainbow Glen in Montagu

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by KarooOne » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Thank you Dave.

Ive been in touch with Tony.

Hopefully he will be able to help us put Karbonaatjies Kraal back on the map.

Howard

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by Richard » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:46 pm

Good to hear of a possible revival of Karbonaatjies. Was very popular in its heyday. Some excellent routes there.

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by mokganjetsi » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:16 am

I see there's little by way of RDs on the Wiki and inconsistencies regarding the number of sport routes; anyone has a copy of the MCSA journal mentioned that can create a pdf of the RD?

Thanks!

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by robertbreyer » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:06 am

MCSA Journal. Too large to post here. Justin maybe you can increase the file upload limit ? Useful for better photos (and hard drive space is cheap these days). email me if you want a copy. robert

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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by justin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:25 am

robertbreyer wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:06 am
MCSA Journal. Too large to post here. Justin maybe you can increase the file upload limit ? Useful for better photos (and hard drive space is cheap these days). email me if you want a copy. robert
@Robert - I've updated the settings, please give it another go
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Re: Karbonaatjies Kraal, Karoo

Post by robertbreyer » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:27 pm

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