New Areas. New routes. Retrobolting. Add-ons. Re-grading. etc.
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Seems like climbers these days only climb routes that are safe or complain about routes that are not. Well when i started climbing, the routes/people that inspired me to climb(ADK for example) sure as hell were not pussy-whipped. So, if someone puts up a route in that style, why do people always have to criticize? Where do we want the next generation of heroes to come from? Is it all about the grades these days or does style still count for something? I have recently opened my project at Paarl; it is bolted old-school style which in my opinion makes the experience of climbing it all the more worth while. Please do not ask me to put in more bolts. In my book respect for your fellow climbers still goes a long way. Sorry about the rant but it seems that we are taking responsibility away from the climber and putting it into the hands of the FA's. How about we all start treating climbing as a sport, with respect...
This is not a question of respect, climbing style or bolting ethics. Its way more simple. There are 4 bolts very close to each other on the first half. Therefore this is not old school bolting. Then a massive leadout to the top. If you fall near the top YOU WILL HIT THE GROUND. Yes, belive it or not, it is possible to slip and fall, even on easy climbing. It just seems strange to bolt the bottom half really well, with a line of bolts, not to have one more bolt to prevent a damaging grounder. Tell me Scott, on your new (opened) project, is there a chance of grounding after the 4th bolt?
This is getting ridiculous. Hayden man, you are missing alot of the points made. Reread the stuff. No one claims this is old-school at all. It's just not sport, just something different. With your logic alot of sport routes all over the Western Cape should be rebolted. The last hard move (grade 10) on Sands oF Time is about 3m above the last bolt, from there you will not fall as you can stand up and walk. I don't think a bolt is needed, however if you want you can put one in, I just think things are a little more interesting (remember grade 10) that way. I don't think Scott will respond as you seem to have missed his points.
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