Request regarding Flashed draw biners

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Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by dirktalma » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:22 pm

Dagse

I would like to ask the manufacturers/importers of the Flashed draws if they would consider selling the front (solid) gate individually? I would like to purchase a whole bunch of those if the price is right.

They reason: The biners I use on my trad rack are mostly the kind that snag when removing thin slings from them. Even though the flashed biner is a straight gate, I believe it would still work much better than the neutrino type biners.

I believe the cheapest alternative is the Positron bent biner at around R160 per biner. The Flashed draws sell for R210 each.

Any other ideas?

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Gustav » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:20 pm

A recipe about how to choose components [of your rack/rig] that loosely comes from MTB-ing (I think) goes like this:

1) Lightweight
2) Strong/sexy/user friendly
3) Cheap

Now you can only pick two!
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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Nic Le Maitre » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:08 am

Ask RAM to bring in a rack pack of the BD Hoodwires

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Gustav » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:58 am

Ja Nic, those are bubbly indeed. But does not have anything to do with point 3 in my previous post :pirat:
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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by robertbreyer » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:00 am

Dirk, we import the Flashed Draws. Complete sets only.
We sometimes use the bent gate in Cape Town on our walls for our lead draws. (maillon on the hanger, dog bone, wire gate for rope).
Maybe we can find a few. Or we can ask and bring in a few with our next shipment, but that will be months....

Alternatively:
We have the DMM Phantom in stock. Similar to the BD Hoodwire, but better and R15 cheaper.
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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Old Smelly » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:48 pm

Nic has proposed the best solution - hoodwire Oz's - can't do much better! :thumright clean nose and great biner!
Really, its not that bad...I think it's my shoes...

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Nic Le Maitre » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:58 pm

Old Smelly wrote:Nic has proposed the best solution - hoodwire Oz's - can't do much better! :thumright clean nose and great biner!
No... you agree with me???????

Shock and horror.

I must immediately adopt a contrarian position :thumleft:

The hoodwire is R215 and has a non-snaggy nose which the DMM ones don't. I'd happily pay R15 for that.

The Petzl Ange (which I have and quite like) is R200 too
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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Old Smelly » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:00 pm

Ange's are good too...

Now I am starting to wonder - maybe the smell is getting to you....
Really, its not that bad...I think it's my shoes...

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by icarus » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:11 pm

I saw Wild Country Oxygen keylock carabiners in City Rock Jhb for R115 today. It's not on the webstore.

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by PeterHS » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:07 pm

CR in Jhb has been having a 20% off first birthday sale. I'm not sure how long for but that maybe why especially cheap. The sale does not apply to the CT store or MMO. Peter

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by RyanKarate » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:37 pm

Climbing stuff not part of the 20% off. Was there today.

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by dirktalma » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:13 pm

Thanks for the input everyone

Thank you Robert. I would like to buy some of those straight gates if you have some lying around.

I am looking to purchase about 20 biners for use with my slings. I use two biners on each sling to make things easier when placing nuts/hexes.

If I decide to buy the Flashed draws, I will have to swop the wiregate biner with a biner with a keylock nose from some of my sport draws (of which I only have 7). I would rather sukkel clipping a draw on a sport route, than having to deal with the small dyneema slings and wiregates on a trad route.

The price of the Flashed draw is R215 on MMO. Total = 13 x R215 = R2795 with an extra 13 half draws
The Petzl spirit bent gate is R171. Total = 13 x R171 = R2223 with 7 less complete draws
The BD positron bent gate is R175. Total = 13 * R175 = R2275 with 7 less complete draws

But if one could buy the Flashed biners seperately at around R120, that would go a long way further

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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by Nic Le Maitre » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:28 am

Get whatever is the lightest!
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Re: Request regarding Flashed draw biners

Post by BAbycoat » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:11 am

PM'ed you.

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