K-Way or First Ascent

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Luckystrike
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K-Way or First Ascent

Post by Luckystrike » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:25 am

I am looking to buy proper clothing for mountaineering. Should I buy K-Way( kilimanjaro jacket and pollux pants) or First Ascent( Summit pants) ?Most expensive is not always the best.
Any advice?

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Re: K-Way or First Ascent

Post by mdk » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:30 am

My FA stuff seem to be doing better than KW. Some refer to it as the K*K-Way...

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Re: K-Way or First Ascent

Post by Luckystrike » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:58 am

I understand, but if I am only going to use it maybe 3 times a year; is the K-way not good value for money spent?

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Re: K-Way or First Ascent

Post by SNORT » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:02 am

Depends what you want to do or what you call Mountaineering.

Most mountain pants are black which is a very poor colour as your problem most times is heat. Unlike rock climbing you are moving most of the time and hot. Especially in the sun on glaciers. So standard stretch lighter coloured approach pants are best (like Prana) to be beefed up with a shell if the weather turns grim. Or thermals underneath.

Shells as well as certain other materials are slippery and if you slip on a snow slope of say more than 30 degrees your chance of self arresting is very slim and compounded by slippery pants or jackets.

Over 4000m black is do-able but most of the time in the mountains is spent at lower altitudes.

Stretchy zip off pants are often the best so you can approach in shorts and then as it gets cooler you can leave the zips partly open for ventilation.

For your upper body a sun shirt is best. Light colours again Kway makes nice ones with zips for cell phones and spare specs. Very important.

Then a fleece or lightweight down followed by a shell.

Head: a visor or peak plus buff

Never underestimate the sun. A brollie is never a bad idea for rain and sun.

Gaiters are essential if doing a lot of glacier or snow travel with crampons as stretchy material easily catches on crampons and can trip you.....Or buy boots with integrated gaiters like the Scarpa phantom

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Nic Le Maitre
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Re: K-Way or First Ascent

Post by Nic Le Maitre » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:12 am

Define mountaineering. The FA Summit pants are great in the Cape Fynbos, they survive better than the competition. If you are going further afield, to big mountains like the Alps, listen to Snort
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Re: K-Way or First Ascent

Post by Luckystrike » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:53 am

I am looking for gear to do snow capped mountains and -20 degerees temperatures.

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Re: K-Way or First Ascent

Post by Warren G » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:04 am

Ya, I'm with Snort and Nic on this one: there is no "best", just "most appropriate" for the given situation. There is a joke in cycling that the right number of bikes is n+1, as one can always find something more specialist for your needs.

Having said this I am not a big fan of K-Way as I am not convinced by the DWR water repellency, I am convinced the fabric is simply not durable enough for regular use in this country, but then it does depend on the product at hand. Its funny, I have a completely different outlook on their tents as I strongly believe K-Way, First Ascent and E3 are made in the same factory as none of them claim to manufacture their own.

So, what you up to and lets see if we can help.

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