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Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:48 pm

After around 35 years of climbing and owning cams for about 30 of those years, I taught myself aneat trick to repair broken trigger wires. It is dirt cheap and quick although probably not very durable. But it can be done at a stance while climbing a multi-pitch route provided you have a short length of ordinary electric wire. So keep some handy
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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Paul Goddard » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:52 am

Hiya Snort

Time to put those guys on top of a velvet cushion inside a glass box and donate to the MCSA relic museum. :thumleft:

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Justin » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:09 am

Paul Goddard wrote:Time to put those guys on top of a velvet cushion inside a glass box and donate to the MCSA relic museum. :thumleft:

No way! Both those cams are still good to go (they do need a proper repair job though).
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Re: Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:40 am

Hey Paul, those cams are a lot safer than many of those rusty 20 and 30 year old bolts that litter our crags around SA.

The cams you see have spent 99% of their minutes in cool indoor conditions, have probably only been weighted once or twice, may never have taken a fall and are still as strong as ever. It is only the trigger mechanism that perishes.

I still have my first cam, a friend 3 that is 32 years old. It is just fine. I also have a friend 4 that Kevin Smith dropped 100m off the Cookie Cliff in Yosemite in 1984 that I occasionally use when needing a big cam.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby shorti » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:42 am

Does anyone know where I can buy some kevlar string? That might just work really well especially to do running repairs on a stance.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby robertbreyer » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:55 am

this is exactly why i wanted an epidural and not a full anesthetic when Snort operated on my broken ankle. i really wanted to keep and eye on him and make sure he doesn't use electrical cable, cable ties, pritt glue and sticky tape from his stationery cupboard to fix me up.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Hann » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:53 am

SNORT wrote:those cams are a lot safer than many of those rusty 20 and 30 year old bolts that litter our crags around SA..


I concur !

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby mokganjetsi » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:31 pm

Hann wrote:SNORT wrote:
those cams are a lot safer than many of those rusty 20 and 30 year old bolts that litter our crags around SA..


I concur !


gmf! trad bias..... :cyclops:

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:23 pm

Shorti, Kevlar won't work for most cams. The wire has to be stiff. Soft trigger wires will work on double axle cams like Camelots and also with the metolius mastercams. But the wire stiffness is required for Trango cams and friends to stop the cams from changing angle

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby shorti » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:55 pm

Oh, thanks Snort. I don't think I quite understand what you mean, but I'll have a look when I get home. Maybe I'll understand when I have a cam in front of me.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Chris F » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:08 pm

If you need a bit of stiffness for use on bigger "Friend" type cams, I have used the thick nylon cord you use on "strimmers" (or whatever you call the spinny things for cutting grass edges) and it works OKI. Just remove the whole wire plus the rigid bits and thread from one cam through trigger and to other cam, put a double knot at the end (use pliers to grip and pull it tight, then clip off the excess.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby pierre.joubert » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:20 pm

SaChris?

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:59 am

http://tom.grundy.tripod.com/basedir/camfix.html

Another method but this depends on the swage being intact

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby shorti » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:56 am

I found some 2mm accessory cord in a cupboard last night. I thought it would work perfect, but I just couldn't manage to thread it through the little holes. I even tried to melt the cord a little to make the tip long, hard an thin enough to push through, but I only managed to burn blisters on my finger tips. The idea was to just make stopper knots to prevent it from pulling back through the holes. In the end I threaded it through the two big holes (those designed to reduce the weight of the lobe) closest to the trigger holes and tied the ends together at the trigger. It looks terrible, but it kinda works ok-ish. I'll try get something thinner to see if it works better, it should at least look better.

That shoelace trick looks rather neat. Hmmm, my salomon tech amphibians have nice and thin shoe laces...

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:16 am

I shall import cam repairs sets to CityROCK soon. Any orders?

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby shorti » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:40 am

If it's affordable I'll be interested.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby mokganjetsi » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:49 am

are the cam repair kits product-specific (eg only for C4s or Fiends or Master Ccms)? i'm intested for C4 & master cam repair kits. thanks! :thumleft:

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:41 am

No they are generic. they will cost around 70$ per set by the time the get here and they fix 10 cams per set.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Chris F » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:13 pm

pierre.joubert wrote:SaChris?


Yes?

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby shorti » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:33 am

SNORT wrote:No they are generic. they will cost around 70$ per set by the time the get here and they fix 10 cams per set.
Cool, I'll take a set if you decide to import.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Uwe » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:37 pm

Hi SNORT, did anything come of that? The cam repair set I mean?
I've got a few cams in need of loving care and attention.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby SNORT » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:10 pm

CR stocks them and they were on special a while ago...

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby garvinj » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:36 am

I just fixed my .3 camalot, using a pin from my sewing box and a electrical cable splice (not sure what that thing is called). It works really well and if you find a good size pin you won't know the difference.

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Re: Cam repairs

Postby Chris F » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:22 am

garvinj wrote: electrical cable splice


A butt connector? (great name! :lol: ) I've used one on a cam wire before too. They work quite well, especially if you use the ones with a heatshrink plastic sleeve


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