Marshall wrote:
It is ironic that the club that Dog, 8A & nos are diss-ing & will not join is the largest single sponsor of sport climbing hardware in SA. Its a funny world.
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"condescending tone" may just be a jab in the ribs, jest. Lots of climbers are not that good in large groups or with new people...in general
(As requested by Baby, no more thread-jacking...)
Marshall, valid points and I try to see things from both sides, but unfortunately I keep on seeing this one attitude displayed by MCSA members towards outsiders. As a prime example, see the post by Gareth Frost on the Catwalk thread. Cheap shot from my side perhaps, I dunno, but that "I told you so" attitude while they sponsored bolts?? I'd like to hear the explanation, the REAL story behind that catastrophe (
) but it seems it's been covered up real quick by all sorts of lawyers and politics.
As for my lost interest, on top of the issue above which deeply concerns me as it goes to the ethics of the club along with a rather disappointing "newbie info" evening (no, I did not expect fireworks upon my arrival, but some willingness to talk would've been nice. Next time I'll sponsor my own fireworks, thank you very much)
Marshall wrote:
What can be expected or demanded from unpaid volunteers?
OK, so they are doing it for free.
So what? Does that entitle them to the unresponsiveness and attitude?
Change it from within? Maybe, but quite frankly I'm not all that keen in spending my time trying to prove my clique-worthiness and try change a bunch of people with an inflated sense of self importance.
Heaven help if they find out I don't have a degree in something, uneducated fool that I am. Maybe thats what the sleepover party is for, so they can "Kamp Staaldraad" it out of you, all your dirty little secrets.
My apologies to all the MCSA members who do not fall into the above categories - I'm just not sure which group is the exception. It's sad that general sub-standard ethics, attitudes etc. have become not only the norm in this country, but is seen as quite OK as long as it's "free" and you don't get shot at. Perhaps if I keep this up the "shot at" part might change, some excitement at last......
I've made a commitment to my friends to join, I'm not quick to break those. If it's good, I might tattoo the badge on my arm. Lookout MCSA, here I come. I'll leave a letter detailing everything with my lawyer, with instruction to send it to the authorities in case anything happens to me.
(That was a joke. Post to be taken with pinch of salt, lemon & tequila, 'cause it makes me happy. Brolloks, I'll sponsor the tequila, steal your own lemon)
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) - or perhaps to show you that you too can part of a bigger picture of conserving our mountainous areas for future generations?
) - I don't want the whole MCSA to know about it. I like my privacy and being \"forced\" to go out in a group just to get accepted is not my idea of fun, no matter how you pitch it. But that's fine, I'll do it.
