'boven grades are soft

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Should all of 'boven's climbs be downgraded by 2?

Yes, and the guidbook should be updated.
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No, because I can't even climb those routes you mentioned.
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Total votes: 18

steveB
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Postby steveB » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:20 am

Haha... Interesting, for me it was the other way but then there were years between the two climbs so I am happy to concede.

But the more important question Paul, which was your favourite one of all?
:-)

Andy Davies
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Quality before quantity

Postby Andy Davies » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:08 am

The age old grade debate continues.... and continue it will because there will be naturally strong climbers with beefy arms, pretty babes with great technique and sly old weak foxes who are gonna find different routes to be different grades. Not to mention height differences or the influence of your tan [yes a well tanned climber looks stronger so definately is stronger!] Then you also have old codgers who find schweet little jams that make impossible routes possible.

A sly old fox [Doc Roger] said, \"its not important if an area is soft by a grade, what is important is that the grades within the area are consistent\" We will never have internationally consistent grades which is why its great having a unique grade system here so people know the grades may be different. Climbing a 7a in Finale [Italy] is very different to climbing a 7a in Tarn [France] which can result in seriously bruised egos if you start in Tarn.

More importantly, the quality of the routes under discussion are outstanding and seeing the pics from the rockrally makes me drool and I am gagging to make a proper visit to the restaurant to see if I can drag my weak @ss up some of those gems.

Mr Administrator can we add an option to the poll \"Instead of wasting time with this discussion I'd rather save my finger power for some sweet steep Boven sandstone\" :D
AndyDavies

AdK
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poll...

Postby AdK » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:43 am

Yes, that would be great, not that this whole thing matters... but it would be fun! Just one problem... You can't vote if you haven't done a route, or come close to doing it... maybe a weighted scale! Then it would be like pop Idols in a way.

Cheers
Arjan de Kock

PaulB
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Postby PaulB » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:22 pm

Thanks for the perspective Andy. Makes me feel a little embarrased about my previous post. Could neverdecide on a favourite line at Boven. So many good lines.

DavidWade
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Re:

Postby DavidWade » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:23 am

AJS wrote:I wish we still never had a Macdonalds.


I couldn't agree more

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proze
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby proze » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:56 am

Holy Ancient Thread, Batman!!! :shock:

pierre.joubert
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby pierre.joubert » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:24 am

See it sometime takes a while to agree, but agreement can be reached

Franz
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby Franz » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:02 pm

the dangers of sleep deprivation and online activity:
'arm wrestling with a 3 year old post'
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Marshall1
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby Marshall1 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:44 am

Whoa!

Note to self.

Remember to edit you posts after a late night with a bottle of wine.

Ray
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Re:

Postby Ray » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:12 pm

8a_climber wrote:I just climb for fun in any case and certainly don't need a website to pat myself on the back. I like to just go out and climb a route.


These grades seemed to matter more to you in your original post than just "climbing for fun".

So, tell us who you are and who you have climbed with here.

Stijn
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby Stijn » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:16 pm

Ray, this is an old thread from 2007... that troll is long gone.

Ray
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby Ray » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:22 pm

:oops:

whoops - didnt have time to read it all properly...

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Camp
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Re: 'boven grades are soft

Postby Camp » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:52 pm

This discussion about grades is interesting. Now about McDonalds, I find the prices in the USA quite soft, not real manly stuff.


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