India Venster Dangerous block

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India Venster Dangerous block

Postby ant » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:59 pm

Beware a dangerous block, about the size of a small bar-fridge, that is at the top of the first little scramble on the IV path.
This is below the 'infamous' scramble - it is the first little one 150m below.

It has always been there but has become loose.
It should be trundled, but we elected not to on a Sunday with all the people on the mountain. It may go as far as the contour path.

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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby justfly » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:35 pm

get that thing sorted out , we don't want a repeat of what has been happening on El Cap over the last few months .... :(
who needs big jugs when you've got a tight crack

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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby Nic Le Maitre » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:07 am

Thanks for the warning Ant.

We also need to have a rock clearing meet on the big ledge below the Upper Cable Station at the top of Arrow Final to get rid of some more of the loose rocks there, I nearly got taken out by one from there on Saturday.
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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby Warren G » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:41 am

justfly wrote:get that thing sorted out , we don't want a repeat of what has been happening on El Cap over the last few months .... :(


Never mind as far a field as that, lets not have accidents like Heindrik's get repeated. A fool is a man who witnesses the misfortunes of another, but learns nothing from it
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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby adamr » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:09 pm

Ant,
any chance of a photo of the block?
did you guys mark it in any way like with "loose" or skull and crossbones?
readers of this forum are among the least likely of all users of IV to pull on a loose block.
maybe mail paddy gordon the head of tmnp.
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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby ant » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:43 pm

Adam indeed.

We did decorate it appropriately with chalk - it should last a few days in this weather.
No Photo :-/

I have notified SANParks.

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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby Justin » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:52 am

Not sure if this is the same block...
This following was passed onto me (I've made some edits):



The India Venster path has a critical handhold that has worked itself loose. It nearly came out to drop me far enough to hurt.
It is on that red sandy section in a steepish area just before the last short traverse across to the beginning of the chains and scrambling section. About half way up the mountain

There is a lovely handhold behind a block that one depends on especially forcefully when descending. The block moved when I used it last but I managed to stop using it and continued on down. I fear soon someone is going to rely on it and take a tumble with the block on top of him.

I believe the block should either be anchored with a long bolt or two, removed, or secured /bypassed with a short chain!?
It is going to hurt someone soon.
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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby Justin » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:14 am

This is the block in question (thanks to Adam for the photos):
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Re: India Venster Dangerous block

Postby Justin » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:29 pm

The loose rock in India Venster has been trundled by Dion Tromp of High Angle.

Below is his report:
After TMNP Rangers secured the fall line, the block was broken into two sections in situ, and then trundled. The first section fell approx 6m and landed at the base of the scramble. The second, and larger section, bounced off the ledge and finally came to rest approx 70m above the Contour Path. The rock has left a really solid and flat platform on which to stand when climbing/descending the route. No further action in respect of additional safety measures (ie handholds or chains) is necessary where the block used to be.

I also tested some of the other large rocks in the immediate area and which are used during ascending/descending the route. Some of them are presently secure, but may well become a hazard in years to come. Please monitor them, and let me/TMNP know if you think they are presenting a hazard.

All of the stainless steel staples and bolts on the "real" scramble section section were also pull-tested, and found to be safe.


Many thanks to Dion :thumleft:
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