Copyright
Long version of ‘treat other people the way you would like to be treated’.
Now edited to clarify!
Hi there! This is a document that explains what we expect from you as a user of the site, and what you can expect from the site’s owners and staff. It is a civil agreement — we can’t force you to use the site, and you can’t force us to let you use it. But usually it’s in our mutual best interest to get along. Being a civil agreement, it is superseded by any applicable laws, and if you break those, you’re on your own…
Climb.co.za & climbing.co.za is a privately-owned, publicly-available resource and, while we encourage a free flow of information and ideas, we also ask that you follow a few basic rules. By using or participating on the site, you agree to the terms stated below. If you cannot or will not agree to them, please refrain from using the forums, routes database, and private messaging features of the site. As far as the owners are concerned, a user’s willful abrogation of this agreement releases us from any obligations towards that user.
Those of us who pay to host this website choose to republish the majority of user contributions because it’s an enjoyable way to build community and run a business. (Also because many of you are much better climbers and writers than we are!) However, there is no legal obligation for this website to republish anything from anyone. Please bear that in mind if you ever find yourself unclear on our obligations. The owners and admins are obligated to obey the laws of this land. When you submit something to this website, you are the author, not the publisher. This seems like a minor detail; it isn’t.
Any further obligations (beyond those legally required) that we may undertake are voluntary,
and your failure to observe these terms releases us from them.
Fundamental principle: Treat other users as you would like to be treated.
Guidelines:
• No porn
• No spam
• No gratuitous flaming
• No harassment (sexual or otherwise)
• No copyrighted material without the author’s permission
• Have enough spine to accept the consequences of your actions!
These conditions apply to all user-submitted (or mod- or admin-submitted) content on Climb ZA, including but not limited to Submitted Photo Descriptions, User Comments on Submitted Pictures, and Signatures. They are applied at the moderators’ and administrators’ discretion. Please do not use the system if you cannot abide by them. Willfully violating any of the above will get you tossed off the site. If you are unsure whether something is suitable for posting, please contact a mod or admin before submitting it. We appreciate such forethought.
Multiple usernames and accounts
We ask that you post only from one username and account, the exceptions to this rule are that the management team reserves the right to use clearly identified test user names as a second username for the purpose of improving the sites technical aspects. If we become aware of a user registering a second username we will have no hesitation in deleting this account with no notice. This will wipe every post and comment. We have a zero tolerance for multiple usernames.
Also, please respect the users of the site who have different sensibilities from your own. Although we discourage the use of profanity in posts, we do not explicitly prohibit it, as potentially objectionable language is automatically filtered.
Intentionall profanity, for the sole purpose of offending the widest audience possible, shows a level of disrespect for other users which we will not tolerate. You will be asked to leave if you persist in doing so.
When quoting other users in the forums, you must do so accurately and honestly. Falsely and intentionally attributing your post to another user is grounds for an immediate and permanent ban.
The ”Three Strikes” policy:
• First offense gets a warning, sometimes accompanied by temporary loss of posting or commenting privileges. You’ll be notified if this happens. It’s nothing personal and may be a total misunderstanding.
• Second offense gets a temporary suspension of your privileges on the site. Acting in bad faith by registering another account to circumvent the suspension will make you permanently unwelcome. This is a cooling-off period so that neither the site’s administrative staff nor you are tempted to make rash permanent decisions. This lasts a week.
• Third time you get a month off. You can come back, but at this point it’s growing increasingly apparent that you may never fit in here. Sorry!
After your third offense, you’ve pretty much established that the site and its users have radically different goals and interests from your own. Any further provocation will result in your becoming persona non grata on the site. In other words, you get banned outright. Have a nice life.
Notwithstanding all of the above the site management and mods reserves to itself the right to expedite any of the measures for preserving the integrity of the site. In other words we can outright go to the last measure of banning you outright for extreme actions on your part. That said we also reserve the right to hear any appeals by any user who feels that they have grown and matured and would in fact be able to contribute positively to the site once again. Contact Climb ZA if you wish to avail yourself of this offer.
Loss of posting (‘tar pitting’) or commenting (‘muting’) privileges can be handled by moderators in the interest of maintaining their forums and reducing extraneous, questionable, or dangerous input. Questions about a moderator’s judgment can be directed to a site manager for review, but please be advised that moderators are entrusted with significant latitude in maintaining their forums, and may act at their discretion if the need arises. They’re also accountable to the site management staff, and all actions are logged for review. Climb ZA is in charge of the forums and users were it concerns managing the forums. He’s also a lot more even-tempered than the rest of us. Talk to him if you have any concerns in regards to any actions taken against you.
Bans are executed by site management and are subject to review. Questions about a site managers judgment can be directed to the Big Kahuna, aka. Climb ZA Their decision is final. In the interest of not inflaming the debate, we request that such discussions remain civil, and reserve the right to refuse service to users who cannot accommodate this request. Again, the decision of the site management is final.
The above measures are to be administered when it appears that doing so is in the best interests of the site and its users; if you have a policy suggestion or feel that the site’s standards need revision, please feel free to open up a thread in the Suggestions and Questions forum. If you dislike something, maybe it’s because it’s broken! But please do keep the discussion civil, unless you feel that the site need not be civil towards you.
Privacy (and Private Messages):
Privacy is held in high regard at Climb ZA. User passwords are stored as encrypted ciphertext, the tables containing PM’s are not available via administrative interfaces to the database, and reading through a user’s messages without consent or legal subpoena is grounds for removal from the Climb ZA staff. HOWEVER, once you have divulged an item of information — your name, your phone number, your dog’s favorite color — in a public forum or to a non-administrative user of the site, that information is no longer a secret, and we will take no action to obscure it should you change your mind. You cannot un-ring a bell, and we will silently ignore requests to do so. You should use your best judgment in deciding who to trust, on Climb ZA as in life. In general, it is in extremely poor taste to post the contents of email or private messages, but some people simply have no taste. Your messages are transmitted to us as plaintext, and stored as plaintext; an ill-intentioned recipient can repost excerpts of your conversations and there is little we can do to stop them. Please exercise good judgment in your dealings with others — as a rule of thumb, if you would be uncomfortable seeing something you wrote on the front page of the Weekend Argus, perhaps you shouldn’t be PM’ing or emailing it in the first place. If it’s something that might trigger an investigation, you DEFINITELY should think twice before sending it.
If the owners and operators of Climb ZA are subpoenaed in an investigation of a user, we will co-operate with the relevant authorities and your information may be seized by the agencies involved. This includes, but is not limited to, submitted photographs, profile information, private messages, email, chat records, and all forum posts. Short of a legal obligation to do so, there is no acceptable reason for the owners or volunteer administrators to invade a user’s privacy; such behavior is cause for review and indefinite suspension. Administrators are entrusted with a greater level of oversight than moderators, and are expected to exercise good judgment in using it.
Disclaimer
Climb ZA is not responsible for messages posted on the Climb ZA Forums or the content therein. Unless expressly stated otherwise, this includes messages posted by Climb ZA personnel, representatives, moderators, administrators, and their agents by proxy. You use the site and the information contained within it at your own risk.
Climbing is a sport where you can be killed, maimed, or crippled even if you do everything right. Certain types of climbing can be almost as dangerous as driving to the crag! Proper technique and experience may limit the risks involved, and you are advised to seek professional instruction prior to attempting the activities depicted and discussed on the site. But in the end, you must accept these risks of your own volition, and we make no warranty that anything on the site is fit for the purpose of instruction, guidance, or consumption.
Everything on this site could be completely, dangerously false. We cannot accept liability for your actions should you choose to rely on the information which users have contributed to the site.
We retain the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
The End
Have fun, climb safe, and be excellent to each other.
– The owners and administrators of Climb ZA
The above text has been largely reproduced from rockclimbing.com
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In addition, our old terms & conditions
- This site is owned and operated by Climb ZA of Cape Town, South Africa.
- The information contained within the www.climb.co.za & www.climbing.co.za websites may be accessed freely for personal and non-profit use only.
- The contents of the www.climb.co.za & www.climbing.co.za may not be reproduced in any form whatsoever, print or digital, (eg. within other websites, magazines, brochures, promotional material). Requests to use any material from the www.climb.co.za & www.climbing.co.za website should be directed in writing to info@climbing. co.za.
- Access to and the use of this site is subject to the provisions of this legal notice and by accessing this site you accept, without limitation or qualification, these terms.
- The contents of this site do not constitute the provision of any legal representations or warranties. Whilst all reasonable precautions have been taken in the preparation of the information on this site, no reliance may be placed on this information and Climb ZA disclaims all representations, undertakings and warranties, including, but not limited, to warranties as to the dates, prices, quality, accuracy or content of products or and/or information of whatsoever nature and warranties of fitness for a particular purpose of information.
- Neither Climb ZA nor any of its directors, parnters or representatives or employees or subcontractors shall be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special or consequential loss or damage arising from any misrepresentations, negligence, omission of information or incomplete information, caused or resulting from any reliance on the contents of this site.
- Climb ZA does not warrant that the functions provided by this site will be uninterrupted or error free, nor that the site or the server that makes the site available are free from viruses or other harmful components. Climb ZA may suspend access to this site without notice at any time and accepts no liability for any consequences of the site being unavailable for any reason.
- The copyright and other intellectual property rights on this site (including, but not limited to, web content and information, names, registered or unregistered or pending registration trade marks data, photographs and graphical images) is owned by Climb ZA. You may print or download material from this site only if such material is not stored on any medium other than for subsequent viewing, or it is not reproduced, modified, adapted or processed in any way. No part of this site may be reproduced or stored in any other website or included in any public or private electronic retrieval system or service without Climb ZA’s prior written permission.
- All risks arising from the use of this or any related site shall vest with you, the site user.
- This legal notice is governed by the law of the Republic of South Africa.
- The information given on this website regarding climbing areas and the routes should not be considered to be true or accurate (in fact, consider the whole website to be inaccurate – and the pictures too) . Please consult a recommended route book (and read their disclaimer) before going out to a climbing area. Route information, directions, where, how and what you might require (permits) can be found in these route books. In short, if you go into the mountains, kill/injure yourself, its not our fault.
- Don’t become a statistic.



